Post by localone on Jan 2, 2010 13:50:40 GMT -7
Re: Zoning for Parks (and/or) Private Events in Parks
Dear scpna.org Members and Guests,
In reply to recent comments about outdoor film events in our parks, I am listing the trail of emails below on the web site discussion section and will encourage web site discussion via an email blast.
I hope you will be able to take the time to read and reflect on the content of each of the emails below; I trust that you and others will form individual opinions, and I feel that, increasing our awareness--both of the issues involved and of one another's opinions--can only be helpful to the neighborhood as a whole.
Jim Slotta-for SCPNA
Begin forwarded message:
From: Tom Morris
Date: December 28, 2009
To: Jim Slotta, Ann Luke
Subject: RE: looking forward
Ann,
I described my feelings about recent events involving the park as what it must feel like to be attacked by a pack of wolves. Aside from these private events for profit, I am near hysteria in regard to giving zoning control to the manager of parks.
The issues you raise are zoning issues. The purpose of zoning is to establish these limits and others before somebody comes up with the bright idea which destroys the park. Under the new zoning, control of the issues you raise will be entirely inside the person who is the temporary manager appointed by the mayor.
So I hesitate to raise your issues until we block this movie thing. And the city is about to change every single zoning in the city which makes me think of the wolves.
So if you have ideas, welcome.
Best
Tom
From: Jim Slotta
To: Ann Luke, Tom Morris
Subject: Re: looking forward
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:45:05 -0700
Hi, Ann,
I invite you to email Tom Morris about his park resolution, which now relates solely to private events in the park. He may feel a separate resolution regarding noise, parking, and other issues related to park events in general is a good idea, and he may be interested in helping to formulate it. Or not. I'm pasting below your and my November 2009 comments to Chantal Unfug, the Parks & Rec official.
I have copied Tom Morris on my reply to you, Ann. Thanks for caring as deeply as you do,
Jim
On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Ann Luke wrote:
Hi Jim,
I am amazed and delighted to see that Tom M. is taking on the City Park privacy issue. I assume that includes noise--?
Unless the creek rises, I'll be at that (January 20 SCPNA) meeting.
Ann
Wednesday, November 11, 2009
Dear Ms. Unfug,
Pasted below in its entirety is a memo to you from Ann Luke. Ann is a long-time resident of South City Park, and, together with many others of us, has devoted significant time reflecting on City Park's impact (both positive and negative) on the Quality of Life here in South City Park. While our registered neighborhood organization--South City Park Neighborhood Association (SCPNA)--has not voiced an official stance on recognized negative impacts, what Ann says below is a good expression of the realities (we) face on many Summer days.
Please note that City Park Jazz (CPJ)(not an Admissions Based Event) was inspired by folks including South City Park residents. The CPJ Committee has worked hard over the years to minimize the potential negative impact of the series on nearby residents. For CPJ, minimizing the parking impact on the neighborhood is the greatest challenge.
Please use this list as you see fit to help your advisory task force and the Parks & Recreation Advisory Board take notice of these concerns. It's our hope that, receiving them on the eve of your presentation of the task force's work to the P & R Advisory Board on November 12, you might find the appropriate way to include these comments in your presentation.
Thank you in advance for whatever you might do on our behalf. Ann Luke's comments follow.
Best regards,
Jim Slotta-SCPNA President
Ann Luke's Comments:
Dear Chantal Unfug,
The following are some of the concerns the SCPN residents have about use of City Park for events:
-*noise: The amplification of sound by electronic means at the summer events literally drives residents out of our homes for the
duration of the event. What the event producers do not understand is that the sound they produce by electronic means
bounces off tall buildings in the park and in the neighborhood and into our homes. "Legal limits" guidelines are of little
help in this regard because of the "bounce."
-*location: It seems that all events are located right across the street from the neighborhood, exacerbating the annoying sound issue,
the car and foot traffic, the pollution (trash, car exhaust, noise, congestion). Why not locate events on the north side of
the park, lower the sound to avoid disturbing the zoo animals and respect SCPN.
-*frequency: Many Saturdays and Sundays in the summer months, the neighborhood is woken between six and 7 AM by amplified
announcing and "music". Why does City Park have to be the frequent venue? What about downtown?
-*parking: We strongly request that event parking be handled WITHIN the park. Our neighborhood is heavily rental, meaning that
multiple parking spaces are needed by residents.
-*access: Residents are often prevented from accessing routes to their desired destinations because 17th Ave. is blocked for the
event.
To the residents of SCPN, it seems that our neighborhood is literally being run over for the convenience of events planners and without regard to the rights/comfort/preferences of the people who live here. City Park summer events seriously impact the property values of this neighborhood., as well as the quality of life.
Sincerely,
Ann Luke
SCPN Resident and Member of SCPNA
Dear scpna.org Members and Guests,
In reply to recent comments about outdoor film events in our parks, I am listing the trail of emails below on the web site discussion section and will encourage web site discussion via an email blast.
I hope you will be able to take the time to read and reflect on the content of each of the emails below; I trust that you and others will form individual opinions, and I feel that, increasing our awareness--both of the issues involved and of one another's opinions--can only be helpful to the neighborhood as a whole.
Jim Slotta-for SCPNA
Begin forwarded message:
From: Tom Morris
Date: December 28, 2009
To: Jim Slotta, Ann Luke
Subject: RE: looking forward
Ann,
I described my feelings about recent events involving the park as what it must feel like to be attacked by a pack of wolves. Aside from these private events for profit, I am near hysteria in regard to giving zoning control to the manager of parks.
The issues you raise are zoning issues. The purpose of zoning is to establish these limits and others before somebody comes up with the bright idea which destroys the park. Under the new zoning, control of the issues you raise will be entirely inside the person who is the temporary manager appointed by the mayor.
So I hesitate to raise your issues until we block this movie thing. And the city is about to change every single zoning in the city which makes me think of the wolves.
So if you have ideas, welcome.
Best
Tom
From: Jim Slotta
To: Ann Luke, Tom Morris
Subject: Re: looking forward
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:45:05 -0700
Hi, Ann,
I invite you to email Tom Morris about his park resolution, which now relates solely to private events in the park. He may feel a separate resolution regarding noise, parking, and other issues related to park events in general is a good idea, and he may be interested in helping to formulate it. Or not. I'm pasting below your and my November 2009 comments to Chantal Unfug, the Parks & Rec official.
I have copied Tom Morris on my reply to you, Ann. Thanks for caring as deeply as you do,
Jim
On Dec 28, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Ann Luke wrote:
Hi Jim,
I am amazed and delighted to see that Tom M. is taking on the City Park privacy issue. I assume that includes noise--?
Unless the creek rises, I'll be at that (January 20 SCPNA) meeting.
Ann
Wednesday, November 11, 2009
Dear Ms. Unfug,
Pasted below in its entirety is a memo to you from Ann Luke. Ann is a long-time resident of South City Park, and, together with many others of us, has devoted significant time reflecting on City Park's impact (both positive and negative) on the Quality of Life here in South City Park. While our registered neighborhood organization--South City Park Neighborhood Association (SCPNA)--has not voiced an official stance on recognized negative impacts, what Ann says below is a good expression of the realities (we) face on many Summer days.
Please note that City Park Jazz (CPJ)(not an Admissions Based Event) was inspired by folks including South City Park residents. The CPJ Committee has worked hard over the years to minimize the potential negative impact of the series on nearby residents. For CPJ, minimizing the parking impact on the neighborhood is the greatest challenge.
Please use this list as you see fit to help your advisory task force and the Parks & Recreation Advisory Board take notice of these concerns. It's our hope that, receiving them on the eve of your presentation of the task force's work to the P & R Advisory Board on November 12, you might find the appropriate way to include these comments in your presentation.
Thank you in advance for whatever you might do on our behalf. Ann Luke's comments follow.
Best regards,
Jim Slotta-SCPNA President
Ann Luke's Comments:
Dear Chantal Unfug,
The following are some of the concerns the SCPN residents have about use of City Park for events:
-*noise: The amplification of sound by electronic means at the summer events literally drives residents out of our homes for the
duration of the event. What the event producers do not understand is that the sound they produce by electronic means
bounces off tall buildings in the park and in the neighborhood and into our homes. "Legal limits" guidelines are of little
help in this regard because of the "bounce."
-*location: It seems that all events are located right across the street from the neighborhood, exacerbating the annoying sound issue,
the car and foot traffic, the pollution (trash, car exhaust, noise, congestion). Why not locate events on the north side of
the park, lower the sound to avoid disturbing the zoo animals and respect SCPN.
-*frequency: Many Saturdays and Sundays in the summer months, the neighborhood is woken between six and 7 AM by amplified
announcing and "music". Why does City Park have to be the frequent venue? What about downtown?
-*parking: We strongly request that event parking be handled WITHIN the park. Our neighborhood is heavily rental, meaning that
multiple parking spaces are needed by residents.
-*access: Residents are often prevented from accessing routes to their desired destinations because 17th Ave. is blocked for the
event.
To the residents of SCPN, it seems that our neighborhood is literally being run over for the convenience of events planners and without regard to the rights/comfort/preferences of the people who live here. City Park summer events seriously impact the property values of this neighborhood., as well as the quality of life.
Sincerely,
Ann Luke
SCPN Resident and Member of SCPNA